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Should the Half Moon Bay Surf Lifesaving Club extend their premises?
<p>The Half Moon Bay Surf Life Saving Club has requested an
extension to the southern end of the existing building and
construction of a new boat ramp for rescue craft (as shown below in option D).</p><p><strong>The Draft Masterplan identifies the following benefits and issues with the proposal:</strong></p><p><strong>ISSUES:</strong></p><ul>
<li><strong>Increased building footprint</strong></li>
<li><strong>Impact on shell midden site</strong></li>
<li><strong>Impact on coastal process and sand movement, (new ramp would effectively be a new groyne)</strong></li>
</ul><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>BENEFITS:</strong></strong></p><strong>
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<li><strong>Improved emergency craft access</strong></li>
<li><strong>Increased equipment storage area</strong></li>
</ul></strong><p></p><p><img width="601" height="382" style="width: 601px; height: 382px;" alt="" src="https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ehq-production-australia/06e19efa80b226e29db1247e964489553522e332/redactor_assets/assets/000/031/918/original/Detail_plan_SLSC.PNG?1503639093"><br></p>
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Cliff Goulding
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
Yes , The club is a vital volunteer community service organization and in line with current OH and S requirements more footprint space is required to store the upgraded OH and S equipment needed for the current and future services.
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Nick McDonald
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
As a lifelong user of the Half Moon Bay beach I think it is a fantastic idea. Looking around at surrounding beaches and surf clubs it is clear that the facilities are no longer serviceable to the volunteers that keep this beach safe. I also personally believe it is the perfect location (out the front of the car park in this diagram) to have an open air seawater 50 metre swimming pool. similar to Bondi Beach or the other hundreds that dot the beaches all along the coast.
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tjhal1
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
YES!!! The club appears to be the most active club in the whole Bayside area in terms of participation. The club appears to be at complete compacity in terms of storage and the number of community members it supports. The current land area intended to extend on is a completely underutilised patch of dirt in a prime area that the club would make fantastic use of!
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shane.ryan
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
I visit Half Moon Bay minimum once week - The area next to the club is currently unused and previously contained a bathing box. Given how active the club is, their ongoing contribution to the community this extension should be granted. Would be great to see improved access to the beach for the club but also the community
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Toni Read
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
Half Moon Bay is one of the busiest beaches in Bayside. Particularly during summer, the beach is packed with people. This makes the job of the life savers challenging enough, and with the added complication of the jet ski crowd, the role of the life savers is vital.
The extension is looking to replace an unused (except as a garbage tip!) piece of dirt with storage for life-saving equipment, and looking to make it easier to get the IRBs in and out. Speedy access to craft by life savers can be the difference between life and death for beach goers, and as a fully set up IRB with motor on it is very heavy, life savers should be able to use ramps to get the craft out quickly.
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richevenden
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
This is a no brainier. Replace empty dirt patch with space for life saving equipment. Enough said really.
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Julie H
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
The support of volunteer Life Savers is critical for the safety of the local community. It would be great to see the Bayside Council supporting this initiative as the Kingston Council has done at Mordialloc LSC. Half Moon Bay is a much busier beach but the facilities are now poles apart. Council needs to support the safety of the Life Savers to enable them to best serve the community.
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Peter H
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
This extension is essential to avoid compliance problems in the future with OH& S requirements and increasing use of the beach. The modern efficient equipment that is now being rolled out requires greater access. I support the extension of the clubhouse.
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Jane W
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
I am in favour of extending the Lifesaving Club , it is a dead space and had a boat shed anyway. The lifesaving club provide a valuable safety and community service who need the space.
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hursey
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
The Club desperately needs more space as we continue to grow with a broad section of the Bayside community utilising training, outdoor activity and patrolling the most popular beach in Bayside.
The ramp is needed to get craft in the water a lot quicker than they currently have in order to respond to requests for neighbouring beaches and other situations which occur well off shore. It is currently cumbersome, and time consuming which wastes precious time in an emergency situation.
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KimDanae
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Posted on 1st Sep 2017
This is an essential upgrade. This SLSC is extremely busy and an extension would result in an increase in safety to allow club members to navigate the pathways with less impact on the local community members enjoying the beach.
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Fi.W
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Posted on 2nd Sep 2017
The voluntary service the Half Moon Bay surf lifesaving club provides our local community should definitely be supported by expanding the club for their life saving equipment which in turn expands the protection of our community.
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Lexie M
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Posted on 2nd Sep 2017
The request for an extension should definitely be granted to allow sufficient space for necessary equipment, to maximise the level of service that can be provided to the booming Bayside community.
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Seddon
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Posted on 2nd Sep 2017
Yes. Although grass has been planted here, this is obviously an unused space which could be put to better use.
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Chris Martin
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Posted on 2nd Sep 2017
The Bayside City Council should be doing all that is possible to aid community groups like lifesaving clubs to expand and gain new members. Half Moon Bay LSC is always busy and more space would only help this already thriving lifesaving club. It would be ludicrous to knock back a development of a vacant piece of dirt when the benefit is so vast.
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PW
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Posted on 2nd Sep 2017
Yes, without a doubt - the extension should be granted. Apart from the fact that the surf club supplies invaluable rescue services at the busy beach, it is home to generation after generation of nippers and senior members whose active lifestyles have positive ripple effects throughout the community. This is a very worthwhile investment.
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LW
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Posted on 4th Sep 2017
Yes, the club provides a crucial voluntary service and it should be supported in it's endeavours.
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HMB nippers
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Posted on 4th Sep 2017
100% for the HMB SLS extension as safe & easy rescue access is crucial to the club to patrol this popular & busy summer beach. The small extension space does not oppose any other developments in place & it is an under utilized space at present. The club provides important emergency services, sporting & social services to the local community & it needs to upgrade its facilities with the demand of the beach goers.
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Bayside resident
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Posted on 5th Sep 2017
NO, the Life Saving Club has had recent extensions to store Surf equip mostly for competition, and if necessary to alter for OH&S, should be modified within the existing footprint. "Surf" Life savers carry equipment to beach and water. A ramp into the bay so close to the beach would act like a groyne and effect the flow of coastal drifts. The consequence could be a drastic loss of beach sand or a build up at the ramp. The HMB swimming beach has not altered in 100 years, Sue A
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Gus
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Posted on 5th Sep 2017
100% Yes. The land beside the club is vacant anyways and supporting a local voluntary organisation is something we should do. Half Moon Bay is one of the busiest beaches in the bayside area and everything should be done to ease access for any equipment they need!
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bayside
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Posted on 8th Sep 2017
It's a great idea and Council should immediately agree to the extension for the benefit of all residents using the area rather than continuing to pander to extremist greenie minority groups who don't want ANY improvements or progress in Bayside
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Michael S
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Posted on 15th Sep 2017
No problem with the extension of the building, but the boat ramp in works to the existing pristine beach is a whole other issue. This is one of the most popular parts of the beach for small kids and there is an existing boat ramp spitting distance that has provided safe access - removed from beach patrons and their kids - for donkeys years. What scientific analysis has been done as to sand movement and the environmental. More importantly what is the need here when there is an existing boat ramp there already - particularly when the ramp and beach proposal serves to reduce the beach area in its most popular spot for families with small children. This ramp and beach works need to be rethought completely.
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ADAMM
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Posted on 17th Sep 2017
Yes, this is an extremely reputable organisation, and great community servant. A popular location that has outgrown its current facility. Expanded facilities will allow vital equipment to be housed is more appropriate space, and provide a better facility for supporting the wider community more.
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Ali
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Posted on 19th Sep 2017
Even though Half Moon Bay is a relatively safe beach with no strong rips, the life saving club is very important to the community and other users. I support extending the building to accommodate the increase in members as long as it does not impact on any aboriginal artifact site.
I can only support option A in view of the ramps proposed in either option C or D. Option B might be possible but the life savers use the veranda to look out over the beach. I understand that it would be easier to move the ILB directly down a ramp in front of the storage area. However option C would take up a significant area of sand already used by beach comers and possible act as a groyne, plus it would still be difficult to move an ILB onto the beach and into the water. Option D is a definite no as it would impact on the coastal movement of sand and act as a groyne, spoiling the existing beach. Parking the ILB on the beach takes up valuable space, plus it would be difficult to launch through the people swimming. Personally I have never seen the ILB at HMBSLC used to rescue anyone, but it would be useful to rescue people who get trapped on the Cereberus.
As an alternative, I would like to suggest that the life saving club be allowed exclusive use of the existing ramp opposite the Beach House. Because the on duty life-savers generally stand up on the veranda in front of the first aid room, where they have a better view across the Bay than on the beach, the ILB could be kept on this ramp and safely moved into the water without having to go through a crowded beach. The yacht club sometimes uses this ramp during competition days but already has a double width ramp in front of its club for its own members. Sharing at peak times could be part of the discussion.
Many life-saving clubs have much further to manually move equipment and some have motorized vehicles. If it is an OHS issue perhaps we could fund a motorized vehicle to help. The boat though still has to manually be moved into deep enough water wherever it is located for use.
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Bayside City Council - Community Feedback
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Posted on 26th Sep 2017
Members of Life Saving Clubs around the coast of Victoria carry their equipment over sand to the sea. I have always though this was part of their physical fitness training. A ramp directly into the water in front of the Life Saving Club would act like a groyne, with waves becoming fractious as they drive off the hard construction and probably remove sane from the beach... The building of this unnecessary intrusion into the bay could cause long term, even permanent damage. (comment from Bayside resident)
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Bayside City Council - Community Feedback
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Posted on 26th Sep 2017
There should be no net increase in the footprint of existing buildings. Following previous extensions to the HMBSLC, there has been considerable loss of vegetation, rubble buried in the soil making it difficult to replant and prevent erosion. Would it be possible for Council to provide storage for the HMBSLC "surf boats" and other equipment on council owned property, inland? (comment from Bayside resident)
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Bayside City Council - Community Feedback
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Posted on 26th Sep 2017
I don't see any need to build a new ramp, but an extension of the existing one is reasonable. (comment by Bayside resident at Walking Tour 24/9/17)
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H
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Posted on 29th Sep 2017
I am unfamiliar with the existing footprint and layout of the premises. However I would think the first option would be the reconfiguration of existing space to enable desired use and access to be facilitated. Is there an option of going 'up' more, and freeing up more space on the lower levels ?